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- From: fasten@zeus.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Bernhard Fastenrath)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Is it Adios Amiga again? (AT sold out!)
- Date: 13 Apr 1996 12:24:13 GMT
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- James Bradley (bradley@csgrad.cs.vt.edu) wrote:
- : In article <1943.6677T135T2508@ebc1.demon.co.uk>,
- : Age The Page <adrian@ebc1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
- <...>
- : I don't want a set-top box. I want a computer.
- me too ... but if my next TV has AmigaOS built-in I won't argue.
-
- : >Personally, I don't think the situation is all that bad, I don't think that
- : >it warrants a flurry of "oh my god, what's going to happen now? We've been
- : >sold down the line AGAIN and this looks like the end". Well, it's not.
-
- : It looks pretty suspicious to me. Barely a mention of continued
- : research and development of the Amiga PC line (and that a speculative
- : blurb from Petro T. -- nothing like this in the VIScorp press release),
- : plenty of mention of the set-top box. And I quote:
- : "the primary objective of the proposed acquisition is to give
- : VIScorp full access to the Amiga technology to support
- : development of its ITV device"
- Yes, VIScorp wants the Amiga technology for ITV. That doesn't change
- AT's goals or stop Power Amiga development for more than a minute.
-
- : I don't consider this good news. We had more reason to be optimistic
- : when Escom bought the Amiga, and still more (for those who didn't know
- : the inside goings-on, anyway) when C= was still afloat. Look where that
- : got us.
- Not really. I never liked ESCOM very much. They don't have an R&D department
- and they have lousy support. Even gw2k has R&D, or their "destiny" PC just felt
- from the sky :-). It is a 31" TV/monitor with Pentium 120 and wireless
- mouse & keyboard (for $3000-$4000). A similar Amiga solution should be
- possible for less than half the price.
- What the Amiga needed is a market without an established "industry standard".
- Here it is.
- Maybe you read Dave Haynie's posting in the "Re: Death of Amiga?? (latest
- AT press release)" - thread.
-
- : >Take a bright positive view of the situation.
-
- : I've been doing this for three years now (since C= officially
- : folded), and it gets harder all the time. My 1992 A4000 is showing it's
- : age like a decigenarian, and I'm going to have to do something pretty
- : soon.
- My A3000 is doing fine. And it'll get a PPC card in a few month ...
-
- : Upgrading the 4000 to the sort of specs I want is a very
- : expensive proposition -- expensive enough that I have to really think
- : about what I'm doing, and consider other options. A PClone for the same
- : money ($2000-2500, for CV64 + 17"+ monitor + well-populated '060 board)
- : gets me pretty close (better?) performance, and much better hardware and
- : software support. But I'd rather have a Power Amiga than either of
- : these, so I have to wait. Sit around for another year with little more
- : than hope and promises, while the rest of the industry leaves me behind.
- : I was prepared to do this, full of the optimism that AT knew what they
- : were doing and Escom was behind them 100%.
- ESCOM was behind AT 100%? I must have been asleep then. Manfred Schmitt
- was probably the only person at ESCOM wanting the Amiga. That's different
- with VIScorp. They appear to be Amiga freaks and even ex-C=developers.
-
- : Then, along comes the sale, accompanied by a press release that is
- : vague at best about the future of the Amiga as a personal computer.
- : Hope and optimism take a nosedive.
- You're upside down.
-
- : Not that I'm going to rush out and
- : buy a PClone tomorrow (for one thing, I'm a couple months from being
- : able to afford it -- the ".edu" in my email is significant) -- I'll give
- : VIScorp some time. But talk of set-top boxes and "ongoing European
- : sales of popular models" is not what I need to hear to keep me waiting
- : for the next generation. I don't want to switch -- to borrow a term,
- : I "spiritually" want to have an Amiga. But if the "spirit" comes into
- : conflict with my future as a professional, the future wins.
-
- : The fact that I've started migrating toward Linux does _not_ make
- : holding out easier, BTW! (For those who don't know, yes, there is a
- : Linux for the Amiga, and it's pretty decent.)
-
- : >I also think that, if the PPC research has been started, then they will
- : >almost certainly be interested in this because it would open up
- : >opportunities for the set top boxes that even the A1200/A4000(T) don't
- : >presently present.
-
- : So we get a PPC-based set-top box. Why do I care?
- How about a Motorola PowerStack running AmigaOS (and Linux)?
-
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